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So we have now reached the mid point of what I guess we call the Spring Season . View from the Oche has been absent for a while as work and personal commitments have meant that I have not had to much time to spend on it. This Mid Season Special will feature some of the old features and some new ones. You never know a bit of positive feedback and I may get back to doing a weekly version. Hope you guys find it interesting reading.
Captains Mid Season Report : A pretty disappointing response to this feature this time around with only four Captains or Captain’s representitives making contributions . If some others get their fingers out I will happily do a Part Two next week on Captain’s Reports , I personally like hearing how other teams reckon they are doing.
Gypsy Pat – The mystic of Saigon is back offering insight into how teams will go in the second half of the season and looking at the upcoming Cup Games.
Who Are Ya? : We have Tom from Really Rottens in Division 1 . Rob1 from Black Magic in Division 2 and Bob from The Vinyls in Division 3. All quite well known and established members of The SIDL but we try and get to know them just that little bit better.
Where Are They Now ?: A new feature that tries to track down some of previous players from the league and see what they are up too. First up Tim Russell, ex Sheridans currently resident in Bangkok.
Photos: Lots of photos from around the venues during the first half of the season.
Devil’s Advocate : The Devil’s Advocate puts forward some points for discussion.
Stars of Stats : Which players are currently on fire this season across the leagues. The stats don’t lie!
Captains Mid Season Report Cards.
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Division 1
Glyn Evans – The Nomads
After our division winning exploits last season we were all excited to see how we would fair in D1, though surprisingly enough we have only played one team for the first time in the shape of Mabuhay. They also represented our biggest achievement to date as come the team game we were playing for a draw that we just couldn’t pull out of the bag. After impressive wins over Alayah (10-2) & Mad House (11-1) and close calls with the aforementioned Mabuhay (5-7) & Team Viet (5-7) The Nomads sit exactly mid-pack in 4th place a position we will no doubt be defending come season end. Individually our Golden Boy remains Chad who has a very impressive 6-0 record despite coming up against some sturdy opposition (taking the scalps of Big Pete, Zach & Roden amongst others). The rest of us have been a bit hit & miss with Brett’s 135 check-out & Logan’s 6 checks both against BNB Retro being the highlights. We look forward to strong finish to the second half of the season.
Division 2
Phattys Phukkers -Jimish
The Phukkers lost a few players during the off season. Kevin, who was our top performer last season wandered off to join his North American compatriots [plus Odi] at Those Guys. Jim T our long serving and esteemed leader decided to place his darts in a long lost cupboard and return to watching Last of The Summer Wine repeats and take up his pipe and slippers [tho will play if needed]. The losses were hard to take but understandable and we were still optimistic with the addition of Niall the Monkey Hanger, Dave the mathematician and the return of our jovial Jock, Adam. Our season though has suffered from only having 3 ever presents in Niall,Jimish and Dave and also having Geordie on a European tour, Ben off in Singers for the first half and Brownie off working too, all tidy players who may have helped us turn draws and losses into something better
For those of us remaining the season started off with a very useful draw away at Pinoy Patriots, a game highlighted by the total breakdown of Brownie, who struggled to hit even the board during his singles game. We actually led going into the team game, but the point was a good one against a very useful side. Our second game also saw us do the same against NSW, drawing after being 6-5 up. The curse of not being able to even hit the board afflicting Colin inexplicably in his Singles. Rumours of a voodoo curse started to surface. 6 -5 up is a position we have never seen since. Heavy losses to Dirty Harrys and an absolute thrashing in the cup against the Pinoy Patriots followed, and after a promising start to the season our game was going to pieces. We have recovered slightly in recent weeks and were more competitive in losses against Black Magic, The Prixx and Charmed Assassins. We tend to have only 6 or 7 players which isn’t a bad thing as it enables players to get some sort of rhythm, but our checking generally has been our downfall.
A good season so far individually, for Niall [5-1] and Jimish [6-0], but we need to get more singles wins on the board. Onward and upwards from here but the Phukkers face an uphill battle if they are to avoid relegation at the end of the season. However, Colin has shown in recent weeks he is getting his mojo back[ despite a loss to the very impressive Thuy from The Prixx] and we should be able to draw on a larger squad in the second half with Ben ansd Brownie getting rid of their rustiness and one thing is certain we can always draw on the incredible optimism and support from our Pam.
Best Team Performance : Probably first game against Pinoy Patriots- with exception of Brownie!!!
Most impressive Opposition player : Rey from the Patriots was very impressive but my vote goes to Thuy from The Prixx ,an awesome performance against Colin.
Own team MVP: Niall , the Monkey Hanger, has a few dodgy moments but usually a consistent checker ,which our team desperately needs.
End of Season Prediction: Hopefully scrape above relegation places – hopefully!!!! Think we will have a better second half anyway.
Rob1 – Black Magic
Things were relatively stable in the world of the Voodoo dwellers over the break. We knew that Five-0 was out, but the late move of White Barry White left us another man down and we lost one of our more enigmatic performers. No more would we see victories over players like Chad, followed by weeks of sheer ineptitude… Ypu will be missed, White Barry! We picked up new players in Baywatch and Kris G (though renamed as Manneken Pis) and had several practice sessions which didn’t show at all as we were thumped by No Star Where in the first match. Another belting against Pinoy Patriots saw us inhabiting the bottom rung on the ladder. Our first victory came at Harry’s Casual against Dirty Harry’s where we rallied from 5-2 down to claim a 7-5 win. After the bye and a free passage into the 2nd round of the knock out cup we returned to league action against the depleted Phukkers and had
another win which saw us climbing the table. Back to earth the next week as the Charmed Assassins skewered us down at the Cow. Another loss in the last match of the half to The Prixxx sees us very much in the relegation mix.
Best Team Performance – beating Dirty Harry’s was our most complete performance.
Worst Performance – where do you start? Probably our complete failure to show up against No Star Where who gave us a deserved belting.
Stand Out Performers – it hasn’t been the usual suspects for Black Magic this season. Both Moore of Less and Porridge have shown some good form and have been very consistent. Tintin is far too worried about Liverpool winning the Premier League and hasn’t played to his normal high standards. Rob 1 took a couple of weeks to get going, but has improved slightly since then. Drama has been in a bit of a slump and is looking to break out of it.
Most Impressive Opposition – the Patriots look like the class of Division 2. The Assassins had a great night against us and if they continue to show that form will be in the mix for promotion.
What’s Next? Back to back games against NSW at the Voodoo Bar. First in the cup, then the league. While it would be nice to win the first one, we are focused on getting the win in the league to kick start our second half.
Patrick – Charmed Assassins
We lost some players this year with Anthony getting assigned to the Middle East and Yuki moving on, Paul is back in Blighty at the moment and not sure if he will return, before the start of the season we signed a new player, David Frayne, who has turned out to be a great replacement for Yuki. Our first game against Dirty Harrys ended in a draw, I think there was a lot of first game nerves on both sides, two big loses to Pinoy Patriots and The Prixx since have hampered our progress, although against Pinoy, Brian Houx was the only player who threw good darts for our team that night, squeezed between those two games was the league cup, having drawn Those Guys, who were sitting in second place in D1 (ever since I joined this team we have drawn a D1 team in the league cup in the first round), it didn’t look good, however, on the night our team were on form, at one point we were 4-2 up, we ended up winning the game 6-5, a shock win/defeat, we managed to pick ourselves up against Black Magic and won 9-3, the team continued in form against Phattys Phukkers, we were 7-1 up at one point and I thought we were in for another big win, however the Phukkers started a fight back, with Geordie, Niall and Jimmish winning the last three singles, The Don checked the team game to make it 8-4, all in all I am pleased with how we are doing at the moment, staying in D2 is the aim this season, it has taken a long time to get here.
Best team performance: Without a doubt, against Those Guys in the league cup.
Best opposition player: Melvin from The Prixx, he was on fire the night we played them with 6 checks and 5 tons.
Own team: to hard to chose between Brian, Russell, David and Andy, although Russell may edge it with his Bullseye finish.
End of season prediction: Looking to secure third place, will help if I can find my form again.
Tuesday Night photos 2014 Part 1
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Gypsy Pat
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So our resident Gyspy dusts off his crystal ball and looks ahead firstly to the second round of the Michael Kueng Cup and then moves on to his predictions for how he sees teams doing in the second half of the season.
Cup Predictions
Nomads v Dirty Harrys
The Nomads are doing ok for their first season in D1, whilst Dirty Harrys are in fourth place in D2, I cannot see a shock result here, prediction Nomads 7-4 Dirty Harrys
Team Viet v Mabuhay Allstars
Mabuhay beat Team Viet 10-2 in their game this season, I think it will be a bit tighter this time, prediction: Team Viet 4-7 Mabuhay
Charmed Assassins v Vinyl
This is going to be a tough one to call, both teams having one of their best players out, heard a rumour that Matevz Verbic may not be available, if that turns out to be true then we may have a chance, however, I can’t work on a rumour so to me Vinyl are the favourites, prediction: Charmed Assassins 5-6 Vinyl
Buddha Bar v An Udder Team
These two teams met last week in the league with Buddha having home advantage and coming out on top, I think An Udder Team can get back to winning ways and overturn that result, prediction: Buddha Bar 5-6 An Udder Team
Really Rottens v Alayah
With Really Rottens having two wins and Alayah yet to win a game it looks as though Rottens are the fovoured team, however when they met in the league they drew, so I think this is going to be a tight game, prediction: Rottens 6-5 Alayah
BnB Saigon Retro Bar v The Prixx
Bnb are struggling in D1 this season, whilst The Prixx are playing really well in D2, I think that BnB will find tgis a hard game, prediction: BnB 4-7 The Prixx
Madhouse v Pinoy Patriots
Madhouse only have one win so far this season, whilst Pinoy, along with The Prixx, are one of the favourites to win D2, prediction: Madhouse 3-8 Pinoy Patriots
Black Magic v No Star Where
NSW have a lot of players missing so I think they are going to struggle in this game,prediction: Black Magic 8-3 NSW
The Final Placings
Div 1
Well the top three are close, but the Champs are so far undefeated, Those Guys have a strong team and I think they can overcome Team Viet.
Prediction: Mabuhay All Stars and Those Guys first and second.
Div 2
Again its tight at the top, Pinoy Patriots and The Prixx are the strongest two teams, if I can find my form again maybe The Charmed Assassins can fight for second.
Prediction: The Prixx and Pinoy Patriots first and second.
Div 3
It’s tight between the top four teams, Vinyl finally found some form after a shaky start and sit top, The Udder Team got off to a great start but have lost form and three games, they need to find their form to mount a challenge, Bernies Best got off to a bad start also but now sit in second place.
Prediction: Vinyl and The Udder Team first and second.
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The first of our Who Are Ya features.
Div 1
Tom Shapland : Really Rottens
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1] Ok Tom, so let’s get the introduction out of the way in one question! Where you from? What do you do and how long have you been doing it? Why Vietnam?
I’m from a small town in the Southwest of England. From the age of 17 I was working in a small furniture workshop until it had to close down 4 years later due to the fact that it was being made much cheaper in Vietnam. No less than a month later I was here in Vietnam working for one of the Companies that had put me out of a job! Nearly 10 years after coming to Vietnam I am now sourcing for a large high end American furniture company.
2] You play for the Rottens in Division 1.How did you end up with them?
I happened to pop in to ice blue one evening and met a guy called Lars Hussum. Played a few games with him and he offered me a place in the Rottens team under the captaincy of Gary Dale. I played for them for 4 seasons. After a 4 year break from darts I (again) happened to pop into Baan Thai in Q.2 and lo and behold a few Rottens were in there practicing so I signed up for the 2nd time!
3] We were having a discussion this week how the darts in Division 2 has improved a lot over the last few years, do you agree that is the same in Division 1 and if so what would you put it down to?
It’s certainly improved all across the divisions. I think it’s down to the fact that more bars have darts areas which generally have people using them rather than gathering dust in the corner. It interests new players as it looks like a bit of fun, and it gets foreign players who used to throw, throwing again.
4] Outside of darts what do you tend to do socially?
Meet up with mates to watch AFL or the F1. Watching football gets a bit tricky seeing as its usually on so late. I also play golf fairly regularly and fairly badly with Bob and the Baan Thai guys.
5] Favourite away playing venue and why?
Has to be Game On. I like bars that have a fully dedicated darts area and no bog or kitchen right next to the throwing area.
6] Being English, is it Beef and Yorkshire pudding or a nice pizza?
An English classic… Pizza
7] What darts do you use?
I use Mark Webster 21g by Winmau… although ill probably lose them soon and have to get some new ones. It happens fairly regularly.
8] Most memorable highlight of your darts career in Saigon?
Winning the league with Really Rottens in Ice Blue (cant remember the year) and Me, Stubbsy plus a few others raiding Underground bar for our Trophy!
9] Favourite opposition team and player?
Always had good games against Matt King, but as for favourite team probably Madhouse due to their darts area.
10] When did you take up competitive/social darts?
Umm, since about the age of 16. I played for a mate’s pub on Tuesday nights for a few years before coming to Vietnam. Same kind of game set up with the triples, doubles singles etc. but we had to double in as well as double out.
11] Describe Guppy in no more than 10 words?
Never. Practices. So. I. Don’t. Know. How. He’s. So. Good.
12] How do rate your team’s season so far?
Medium. None of us have been throwing consistent darts this season, and it shows as we are stuck in the middle of the D1 table.
13] What does the future hold for Tom Shapland?
Tough call. Certainly Vietnam for the foreseeable future but what happens is yet to be determined!
14] Your match tipple is what?
Tiger beer
15] Finally , what would you like to see different in Saigon darts?
Bigger doubles on the dart boards.
Tuesday Nights Photos 2014 Part 2
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Div 2
Rob Crowther : Black Magic
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1] So Rob you have been resident of Saigon for a while now, with a short break included. What made you come back and what is the appeal of Saigon in particular?
It was never part of the plan to come back to Saigon, but we made a trip back in 2007 and fell in love with the place again. There is something very easy about living here with a very high quality of life combined with a very low cost.
2] You are married with two kids, like myself, how do you manage to get the missus to let you out for your debauched Tuesday night darts sessions?
It’s all the clean living for the rest of the week!
3] Give us a brief rundown of your Saigon darts career?
I started at the original Bar 5 in 2000 after being recruited by Harry Potter. I moved to Jakarta in 2002, but stayed in touch with the team while I was gone and then rejoined when I came back in 2008. I think ‘career’ is a strong term. I show up most weeks though!
4] What is the hardest thing for you being Captain of Black Magic?
Mostly the fact that I had pretty big shoes to fill! Other than that, it’s the feast or famine issue. Not enough players, or a struggle to play everyone when you have 9 players show up.
5] Favourite opponents over the years, both in terms of individual players and teams?
Games with LLB/Phatty’s Phukkers have always been a bit of fun and generally closely contested. You and I have had a couple of good matches too. I always enjoy playing against someone who doesn’t mess about at the oche. Get up there, throw your darts and get ready to do it again!
6] Some of your team has some mighty strange names –how do they come about and why is yours so boring in comparison?
The team usually combines to come up with the names. Sometimes they come from a moment of inspiration – White Barry White was my favourite, mostly because it had Rob Lockwood speechless and that doesn’t happen much! Other times it just seems obvious. One look at Lars’ hair and you know why he is called Tintin! When I first started to play we had 2 other Robs join the team which is how I ended up with Rob 1. There have been a few attempts at giving me other names, but Rob 1 has stuck.
7] Rugby is the sport where I first met you way back in 2001 –do you still maintain an interest?
I do. It’s still my sport of choice, although I’ve moved on to refereeing these days instead of playing.
8] You do a highly entertaining match report for your team the day after matches –why do you bother and has any one taken exception to something you have written?
It all started out as a bit of fun and grew from there really. No one has taken exception yet, although I probably cut it close sometimes! A lot of our ex-players are still on the mailing list as they like to get the reports each week and complain if it takes too long. I tend to be more motivated to get it done when we win! I usually find a suitable pop culture reference as the theme and use that as the basis.
9] What is view on how the darts is run presently in Saigon?
I think we have a pretty good group of people running the league who have done a good job to promote darts and try to keep everyone happy. Obviously, that’s an impossible task, but I think decisions are made with that aim in mind.
10] Harry Potter the Legend – Are you still in contact and what is he up to these days?
We are in touch. He’s in Colorado these days waiting for a new kidney. He keeps threatening to come back over because I’m doing such a crap job as skipper!
11] Apart from two Geordies commentating on your game behind you , what can annoy you the most during matches?
That was a very funny night being stuck in a Tango commercial on a loop! Anyone who knows me will know that slow play and players who can’t count are the things that bug me the most.
12] Favourite drink on match nights?
I used to be a Sapporo man, but I gave up beer about 7 months ago. These days it’s a whiskey soda or a cider for me.
13] Where did the name Black Magic come from?
It was when we moved to the Voodoo Bar. It seemed appropriate!
14] Finally Rob, what has been your most pleasing darts moment whilst playing in Saigon?
We’ve been Division2 champions a few times, but I was pretty pleased with our win in the last match of last season when we won to make sure that we couldn’t get relegated. Personally, I was happiest a couple of seasons ago to finish 3rd in checks as that hasn’t always been my strong point!
The Stars of Stats
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Division 1
Top 3 Singles placings:
1st Jonel and Jun 7-0
2nd Xu,Chad,Adrian and Nhan – 6-1
3rd Odilicious
Top 3 Tons Scorers :
1st Jun 47
2nd Jonel and Xu 46
3rd Hai 38
Top 3 Checkers :
1st – Jonel
2nd – Jun
3rd- Chad ,Big Boy and Nhan
High Finisher :
Adrian 157
Top 3 Points Scorers :
1st Xu 130
2nd Jonel 121
3rd Jun 118
Some familiar names in the ranking this season . With both the Mabuhay’s Jun and Jonel battling it out at the top but not getting it all their own way and being challenged strongly by Xu from Team Viet. Excellent seasons so far for Chad[Nomads], Adrian [Mabuhay] and Nhan [ Team Viet]. Odilicious and Big Boy from Those Guys also make an apprearance on the leader boards ,reflecting their teams good season so far.
Division 2
Top 3 Singles placing:
1st Jeorge ,Jimish and Rey 6-0
2nd Peter and Niall 5-1
3rd Mike and DT 4-1
Top 3 Tons Scorers :
1st Jeorge 32
2nd Rey
3rd Mike
Top 3 Checkers :
1st Rey 20
2nd Peter and Rob W 19
3rd Jeorge, Woz and Melvin 18
High Finisher :
Rey 94
Top 3 Points Scorers :
1st Rey 95
2nd Jeorge 86
3rd Peter 80
Not surprisingly the top two teams in Pinoy Patriots and The Prixx dominate the leading stats in Division Two, with the only surprise being that Jimish and Niall from rock bottom Phattys Phukkers, find themselves in the Top of the Singles board. Rey and Jeorge are battling away for all categories, supported by team mate Mike. From the Prixx, Peter ,Woz, Melvin and DT have had excellent seasons so far too.
Division 3
Top 3 Singles players:
1st Tun 6-0
2nd Lee 6-1
3rd Louis 5-0
Top 3 Tons Scorers :
1st Mario 26
2nd Paul 25
3rd Tun 23
Top 3 Checkers :
1st Mario 25
2nd Paul 23
3rd Thanh Tiger 21
High Finisher :
John 99
Top 3 Points Scorers :
1st Paul 96
2nd Mario 95
3rd Rab 81
No real suprise to see Lee ,Mario and Paul from Vinyls topping the charts ,with their wealth of experience of playing in Division 1 for many years and Vinyls leading the way in the league too. Tun as usual is having a consistently good season for Buddha and nice to see John from the same team make his way to the highest finish so far. Rab has been in fine form for The Tavern and Thanh Tiger has helped Bernies Best make their best start for quite a few seasons. Louis has also had a remarkable start considering he hadn’t played darts for over a year .
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Div 3
Bob Wittenbach: The Vinyls
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1] So Bob, how long have you been in Saigon and what do you actually do?
I first came to Saigon on a once-in-a-lifetime holiday back in 2002, but circumstances subsequently led to me moving here in 2005. I have worked in media marketing for most of my working life and I am currently Head of Research and Business Planning Insights for Vietnam’s leading media agency group.
2] You have been very involved in the Committee in recent years, what was your motivation to get involved in that side of things?
I’m actually more of a squash player than a darts player, but I had played in a social darts league in England for many years previously and when I heard about the darts league here, I thought it would be a great way as a relative newcomer in Saigon to meet people and socialize in different bars. I was also aware of the great work that Gary Dale was doing at the time for the SIDL and I later volunteered to help out more on the statistical side to keep the momentum going.
3] Give us the lowdown on your darts career in Saigon.
Shortly after moving here, I was contacted by the late Steve Garforth (AKA Shrek) if I would be able and willing to join the Undertakers as they were short of players during the summer. This was the year the Undertakers went on to win the League and Cup double. I scored a couple of tons and a high finish during my first match and it’s been all downhill ever since!!! Having said that, I was captain of the ALAYAH team that won the 2010 League Title largely because I rarely picked myself and concentrated on getting the best combinations from our team squad at the time.
4] You are involved in the new bar Vinyl. Why did that come about and what is its unique selling point in your view, against all the other bars in Saigon?
Lee and I had had this dream of opening an English-style bar here for many years and our good friend Huck Nguyen had an idea for a music-themed bar called Vinyl. The opportunity suddenly arose last June to buy the old Moon bar, and everything came together at that time. It wasn’t rocket science – we simply did a bit of market research, we had the right location and we created a bar that we would want to drink in ourselves and not be nervous about taking wives or girlfriends into.
5] I often hear you referred to as Bongos or Bongo Bob –what is that all about?
I was a professional drummer for a while and when I moved here, I joined the music scene and played a few bars like La Habana and the old Sheridans. Unfortunately, many of them were too small for a full drum kit, so I bought a set of bongo’s to be able to still play in those venues and the name just arose from there, probably because no-one could remember how to spell my surname!
6] I know one of your other passions is Footy and your beloved Watford –how are they doing this year?
Sadly not as well as Robert Crowther’s Leicester City! In SIDL terms, Watford are roughly where Dirty Harry’s are at the moment – upper mid-table in the second tier – which is somewhat disappointing after just missing out on promotion back to the Premiership last year. But they’ll be back next year…
7] Being an Englishman I have to ask you Fish and Chips or Chicken Tikka Masala? –our two national dishes
Chicken Tikka Masala, although I would also have to put a plug in for Traditional Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding.
8] Back to darts – which player have you enjoyed playing alongside the most during your time in The SIDL?
Charles Czarnecki
9] Most difficult opponent?
Any of the ACDC girls !!
10] What is your tipple on match nights?
I mostly stay loyal to our league sponsors, so currently Tiger Beer. Previously whilst with ALAYAH, it was mostly Johnnie Walker Black Label. I’m just hoping that the SIDL never gets a Tequila brand sponsor!
11] You and Lee, our glorious leader, go back a while –did you know him when he had hair?
Lee and I both worked in the London advertising scene back in the last century and even drank in the same media industry haunts, but we didn’t know each other until literally meeting at Heathrow Airport to come to Vietnam in 2002. I can vouch for the fact that he still had hair back then. If I remember correctly, he lost all his hair at one of the Hanoi vs. Saigon darts challenge matches in Hanoi.
12] What has been your most favourite moment whilst playing darts in Saigon?
Difficult question as there are lots of great teams and individuals within the SIDL that help to make Tuesday evenings a great social night out without getting too worked up about the result. If I had to pick one darts occasion, I would probably have to say the ALAYAH and Dream Team darts trip to Guangzhou.
13] You missing your old Alayah chums ?
Yes but we still see them regularly and drink a few Mbo-Dahs in both RED and Vinyl.
14] Finally Bob, where do want to see The SIDL going in the next few years?
From strength to strength I hope. We have a solid heritage now on which to build the future, which is also why I have spent some time trying to build up the SIDL archives, and we have a great team of dedicated individuals on the committee under Lee’s excellent stewardship. Ultimately, we want to see more young players and more Vietnamese players come into the game to strengthen our league. We want to see the Vietnam National Championships grow in stature so that we can approach HTV or SCTV to televise the event and to one day be able to send a Vietnamese representative team to international ranking events. And for those of us who are not Vietnamese, well let’s continue to enjoy our Tuesday evenings and help put darts in Vietnam on the sporting map.
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So a new feature where our Devil’s Advocate puts forward some points for discussion.
Soft Tip Darts- Came in a blaze of glory ,with the electronic boards brought in by a few bars and a mini league started but was it just a passing fad? All has gone quiet and the hard tip game continues to dominate in bars .Will the bars be left with just expensive flashing ornaments?
Vietnamese National Championships – A great idea and the only tournament with a cash prize kindly donated by sponsors. Great for our existing Vietnamese players but surely we should be using it to attract new players. Let’s advertise it in the Vietnamese press and advertise it to those we are trying to attract to the game of darts and unearth a pool of unknown players instead of just our present talented players of Vietnamese nationality.
Venues – Are we getting a raw deal from some venues ,given what revenue we give them. Yes some are very good and actually pay team’s fees ,provide shirts and some good snacks but some do very little. Surely venues should be offering some sort of discount for guys and gals playing on darts nights. I remember some did a while back and of course we had the Jonnie Walker discount but you don’t hear many doing anything or am I wrong?
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And so to a new feature when we find out how ex SIDL players are getting on with their lives around the world.
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Tim Russell ex Sheridans
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1] Tim, how long have you been away from Saigon now and what were the main reasons for leaving?
I’d been in Saigon nearly 10 years & had absolutely had enough of the place, so when a good job offer in Bangkok came up I grabbed it with great enthusiasm! We moved here in September 2012 so it’s been over 18 months now.
2] So how is life in Bangkok then?
So far so good. It’s kind of a halfway house between Saigon& Singapore – you’ve got all the usual colour & craziness of Southeast Asia but with the added benefit of decent infrastructure/public transport, great shopping, great restaurants, parks and in general an excellent quality of life. And overall I’d say it’s cheaper to live here than Saigon too. We love living here.
3] What is the darts scene like in Bangkok and have you continued your darts playing?
Very different to Saigon. It’s not as well organised and the expat community here is much bigger & more spread out, so darts isn’t the social focal point it is in Saigon. This means that people who play darts do so purely for the sport rather than the social side of it, so it isn’t really much fun. I played a couple of league games but didn’t really enjoy it so gave up. Though I did get a 180 on my debut so managed to leave my mark on the stats! Otherwise I just play socially once a month or so. I also played in the PDC Bangkok Open with Adrian, Alan & Mario but the less said about that the better!
4] Are you still in touch with any of your old Sheridans team mates?
Of course. Alan West & Mike Fegan are both regular visitors to Bangkok, and in fact just yesterday I spent a boozy afternoon playing darts with our Russian enforcer Vlad Pushtokin. And I’m in touch with most of the others by Facebook/Skype etc.
5] So which team would you appear for if you happened to be here on a Tuesday?
Given that I hardly play these days I doubt there’d be much of a race for my signature. I once swore that I would only ever play for Sheridans but given that they no longer exist I’d have no choice but to play for someone else. As you’ve done me the honour of interviewing me for your blog, and we had a good time playing for England in the World Cup in 2012, I’d play for your team, whatever you’re called these days, if you’d have me!
6] What is your best memory of your time playing darts in Saigon?
Wow, where to start? I guess in purely darting terms the high points were winning the SIDL Pairs 2012 with Alan, and winning div 2 in 2009 with Sheridans. But the SIDL is all about the social side and there are just too many wonderful moments to narrow down really. If I had to name one it’d be the league game against Dream Team just a few days after the sad loss of our much-loved captain Bernie Kloska. It began as a very sad, somber evening but by the end it had morphed into a joyful, drunken mess that Bernie himself would have thoroughly enjoyed – the perfect tribute.
7] Prefer the Thai food or Vietnamese?
Thai, absolutely no contest. But Vietnam has better beer.
8] So what do you normally do on a Tuesday night’s now?
We just moved to a nice house out in the ‘burbs so on Tuesday nights you’ll find me sitting on the sofa, glass of wine in hand, with Linny and the two street dogs we recently adopted, watching TV – most likely True Detective at the moment. And I’m usually in bed by 11 – a far cry from Tuesday nights in Saigon.
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